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NETWORK / 9 / DECEMBER 2018 / JANUARY 2019 works work together. "We're seeing that there isn't a magic bullet that is electricity or a magic bullet that is gas," Smith comments. "What you've got is multi-vector approaches to tackling this whole greening of energy and decar- bonisation. "All of the companies are looking at different approaches and taking different pieces to push it forward. For me, in many ways this whole greening of energy is be- coming reality. We've been able to make big steps forward and the networks have played a key role in that. "I think that the whole multi-vector, multi-system approach will become the key. During the year we've started to see that unlock. We've started to get learning out of big projects and what that has shown is that gas and electricity are working together. But there are also other players like waste and transport. All of these approaches to decarbonisation are going to lock together and take us forward. We've proved it can happen and know that it can happen. We've seen the results and it's about moving it to the next stage." Smith believes that this multi-sector ap - proach to decarbonisation is now reflected in the audience that attends LCNI. "We're now attracting people coming in and saying there is something going on in this sector that I need to learn about that will help me to deliver better in my own sec - tor. Transport and waste are good examples. There are other sectors that are saying this sector is doing something really exciting and we need to be part of it." Innovation and regulation It's clear that the pace of change across the gas and electricity networks has been sig- nificant in recent times and Smith believes that LCNI has played an essential part in the opening up of innovation across the networks. "I think innovation has become a big tool for the sector. We need to make sure that continues through RIIO2. It would be a shame if we faced any form of cliff edge." With network operators now starting their business planning for the next set of price controls, Smith added: "I think there are key themes that will come out of that. Financeability is clearly in there. In terms of how we work as ENA I think our job is to identify what we can help influence and help members with. That's around learning, sharing and doing pieces of work in com - mon. Then the members as they go through RIIO2 will be able to have a base line to work from." Network operators are also having to consider how they're going to manage distributed energy resources both now and in the future. "This is the learning that we're starting to take through the Open Networks project," states Smith. "The idea is to say change is coming. We won't be simple DNOs in the fu - ture. We will transition and move ourselves into DSOs. It's how we use things like learn- ing, how we work together in collaboration with GDNs and other partners and move to a place where the consumer, who might be producing their own energy in the future, have an energy system that they can actively take part in." Smith is encouraged by the setting up of The All Party Parliamentary Group on Hydrogen. The APPG on Hydrogen provides a forum for MPs and Peers to engage with leading businesses and organisations that are work - ing to enable the UK to meet its decarboni- sation targets through the implementation of large-scale hydrogen projects, and to discuss policy options to support these. Smith added: "It shows that if Parlia - ment is getting interested then people are bought into this whole concept and that it must be part of the future. The fact that they've set up a hydrogen group shows that it has captured Parliament's imagination. They understand it and want to get behind it because they want to be there pushing the right policy levers going forward. Our job is to help show them how that can happen." So what's Smith's view on the decarboni - sation of transport, and in particular the impact that electric vehicles are having on networks? "Under the Energy Systems Catapult they've setup an energy group looking at the electrification of vehicles. I sit on that group. We've already seen in London the electrification of a couple of the bus depots. We're already seeing fuel cell vehicles out there and we're seeing more electric charg- ing points popping up. The Catapult is trying to show that there needs to be a plan. You can't do it in a piecemeal approach. "We're not the magic bullet. We're a stakeholder but we need to step up, as we are doing, and take our role in this. Our role is to help make sure that we've got the abil- ity to deliver, but we need the policy signals to help deliver that. We can't invest ahead of need, so we need them to say this is what we want, this is our vision as government and we want you to deliver this. We have a role, but we need a clear definition of what the end game plan is." Skills During our discussion Smith highlights the breadth of opportunities available in the energy sector but acknowledges that more needs to be done to attract people into it. "This is an industry where you can have a career for life," he tells Network. "There are very few industries now where you can go in at 18 and work up to when you're 60-odd. What we need to do is make that attractive and just show how this industry is going to change their lives. No longer will it be a very passive system for the networks. It'll be an active system and you can get engaged in it. "There will always be a need for people to put cables in the ground or do the jointing, but the actual range of skills and breadth that we need will change quite radi - cally. We need to show that this really is one of the most exciting and innovative places to come and get involved in a sector that has probably become one of the most dynamic." As my time with Smith draws to a close I ask him about Brexit and what impact this might have, if any, on the operation of network operators. "I saw the piece from the Withdrawal Agreement that the interconnector market will continue to work and operate. Clearly that's very important to keep power flowing through the UK. I think, like many people, it's one of those ones where we need to keep on top of it and understand that the energy market is critical to UK plc operating effectively and efficiently. We wouldn't want anything to happen to the energy market that had any detrimental effects either in the UK or across Europe. As I was reminded yesterday, the first exchange of energy between the UK and the continent of Europe was in the 1930s, we've been doing this a long time." The 2019 Low Carbon Networks In - novation (LCNI) Conference will take place from 30-31 October at The Scottish Exhibition Centre (SEC) in Glasgow. "I think innovation has become a big tool for the sector. We need to make sure that continues through RIIO2. It would be a shame if we faced any form of cliff edge."